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Shadow Adanza
Colonial Marines EVE Division
Villore Accords
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Posted - 2012.07.04 04:29:00 -
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... and this is what's wrong with faction war.
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Shadow Adanza
Colonial Marines EVE Division
Villore Accords
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Posted - 2012.07.04 19:54:00 -
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Yuri Intaki wrote:Nerath Naaris wrote:Hey, I like fighting for the underdog, more opportunity for glory!  Caldari are still outnumbered
Blatant lie. Never have been, honestly. Just had more mission runners than fighters.
(Check my killboard when I first started Faction War for proof. Majority of the kills in Orvolle, Osmeden, Mesybier, Pemene, Villore, and Caslemon... mission runners. And that's just the ones I caught in that part of space.)
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Shadow Adanza
Colonial Marines EVE Division
Villore Accords
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Posted - 2012.07.04 20:22:00 -
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Mutnin wrote:Shadow Adanza wrote:Yuri Intaki wrote:Nerath Naaris wrote:Hey, I like fighting for the underdog, more opportunity for glory! Caldari are still outnumbered Blatant lie. Never have been, honestly. Just had more mission runners than fighters. (Check my killboard when I first started Faction War for proof. Majority of the kills in Orvolle, Osmeden, Mesybier, Pemene, Villore, and Caslemon... mission runners. And that's just the ones I caught in that part of space.) Confirming, that Gals are being beaten by high sec mission runners.. 
Haha.
That's a negative, Ghost Rider.
Open your eyes and read along.
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Shadow Adanza
Colonial Marines EVE Division
Villore Accords
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Posted - 2012.07.05 05:50:00 -
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Nave Drallig wrote:
(looks at dotlan and previous posts by other members of Galmil yourself included) yup your getting beaten by high sec missioners and a group of pvpers with less SP and less Isk..... as Marshall Zhukov once said "Quanity has a quality of its own"
Oh?
You must've missed the part where I pointed to the influx of new corps along with the missioners swapping to plexers due to the ease of plexing, then. ^_^
I don't know about less SP or isk (as far as my in-game player is concerned). I'm not even a year old yet. :P
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Shadow Adanza
Colonial Marines EVE Division
Villore Accords
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Posted - 2012.07.05 06:54:00 -
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Garan Nardieu wrote:Shadow Adanza wrote:Nave Drallig wrote:
(looks at dotlan and previous posts by other members of Galmil yourself included) yup your getting beaten by high sec missioners and a group of pvpers with less SP and less Isk..... as Marshall Zhukov once said "Quanity has a quality of its own"
Oh? You must've missed the part where I pointed to the influx of new corps along with the missioners swapping to plexers due to the ease of plexing, then. ^_^ I don't know about less SP or isk (as far as my in-game player is concerned). I'm not even a year old yet. :P Not really wanting to repeat what's been pointed out in other parts of forums, but in their smugness squids might at least have the decency to admit the fact that two day old chars being able to capture basically any size of gal plexes vs caldari plexes requireing decently skilled chars did add to squid sucess just a tiny little bit. Oh, and don't get me wrong, kudos to you guys for getting coordinated like you did.
They've got their own "defense" against that line of discussion (though frankly I think it's got holes in it) and refuse to debate on the topic, thus I tried to avoid it as much as I could as it would accomplish nothing.
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Shadow Adanza
Colonial Marines EVE Division
Villore Accords
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Posted - 2012.07.05 07:26:00 -
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Tanaka Sekigahara wrote:Shadow Adanza wrote:Nave Drallig wrote:
(looks at dotlan and previous posts by other members of Galmil yourself included) yup your getting beaten by high sec missioners and a group of pvpers with less SP and less Isk..... as Marshall Zhukov once said "Quanity has a quality of its own"
Oh? You must've missed the part where I pointed to the influx of new corps along with the missioners swapping to plexers due to the ease of plexing, then. ^_^ I don't know about less SP or isk (as far as my in-game player is concerned). I'm not even a year old yet. :P Yet you talk about how Caldari " Never have" been outnumbered, as if you have even the vaguest of clues.....(not)
They haven't.
"Oh but they're not all active."
Yes, we've heard that before several times... as if they're the only one's with inactives.
(Is there even 1500 active members in any one militia?)
For instance: I look and see that in 2009 Caldari captured every FW system available to them. Would they have been able to do that without a numbers advantage? I highly doubt it. Up until the patch the Gallente had the numbers advantage as far as active FIGHTERS, but combine the Caldari missioners and fighters against the Gallente missioners and fighters and voila. Then the patch hit and they got a nice, swift kick in the pants with recruitment and new incentives and now the advantage is showing itself.
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Shadow Adanza
Colonial Marines EVE Division
Villore Accords
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Posted - 2012.07.05 07:34:00 -
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Tanaka Sekigahara wrote:Shadow Adanza wrote:Tanaka Sekigahara wrote:Shadow Adanza wrote:Nave Drallig wrote:
(looks at dotlan and previous posts by other members of Galmil yourself included) yup your getting beaten by high sec missioners and a group of pvpers with less SP and less Isk..... as Marshall Zhukov once said "Quanity has a quality of its own"
Oh? You must've missed the part where I pointed to the influx of new corps along with the missioners swapping to plexers due to the ease of plexing, then. ^_^ I don't know about less SP or isk (as far as my in-game player is concerned). I'm not even a year old yet. :P Yet you talk about how Caldari " Never have" been outnumbered, as if you have even the vaguest of clues.....(not) They haven't. "Oh but they're not all active." Yes, we've heard that before several times... as if they're the only one's with inactives. (Is there even 1500 active members in any one militia?) A 4 year old war you have been involved in for a few months. You dont have a clue....
You'd be surprised. ^_^
Read my addition to the above post.
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Shadow Adanza
Colonial Marines EVE Division
Villore Accords
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Posted - 2012.07.05 18:09:00 -
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Yuri Intaki wrote:
Perhaps Caldari had more numbers back then than gallente but I doubt it. Main difference was that most of the gallente militia sat in Tama, camping nourvukaiken gate and laughed "Lol, plexing, it does not matter, we wont help you" to their fellow militia members who got constantly curbstomped by likes of PERVS, 22nd, CAIN and others everywhere else outside Tama.
Another difference back then was that it actually took you days, weeks, even months to flip a heavily contested system. I'd actually say numbers played less part than will to persist in plexing.
Gallentes can say "downtime plexing favoured Caldari" and for a while I believed it but such was proven to be a excuse much later when Gallentes were willing to use atron alts by their dozens to shift plexes around from uncontested systems to contested systems (thus undoing our work) when we were attacking Viriette before new plexing changes appeared.
Once again, it comes down to will to persist in your chosen goal. (and ability to fund more alt accounts than your enemy as was the case what gallentes did during Viriette offensive).
Seems like that's been the common Gallente agenda.
Having seen some videos and talking to members who were around back then it seems that they were out numbered then. (At that point would probably be when the Caldari got a large number of those now inactives.) But again, I wasn't around back then and can't fully say "yes" or "no". All I have are stories, thus I can only speculate. ^_^
I do appreciate the little story time, though. The past of Faction War is somewhat fascinating to me.
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